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 Loading mp3's into Ableton then exporting to WAV |
 
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 05. Mar 2013, 15:46
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 audiophiliac  Group: Moderators Posts: 605 Thanks: 697 Joined: 25.02.10 From: Milky Way Galaxy Member No.: 57,959  |
I've been curious about this... I know taking an mp3 and transcoding it to a wav is a no no, but what about loading, say a DJ set, into Ableton using mp3's and then exporting to a WAV. Is this still not a good thing to do?
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05. Mar 2013, 16:04
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Ready 4 Retirement Group: Global Moderators Posts: 3,615 Thanks: 3945 Joined: 14.12.07 From: #torrentech Member No.: 25,540 |
You won't loose any quality but if/when you encode the mixdown to MP3 again you will.
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05. Mar 2013, 16:11
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audiophiliac Group: Moderators Posts: 605 Thanks: 697 Joined: 25.02.10 From: Milky Way Galaxy Member No.: 57,959 |
What about if I go to FLAC?
Say I load mp3's into Ableton get a mix together or whatever. Export them as WAV and then transcode to FLAC? |
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05. Mar 2013, 16:18
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Ready 4 Retirement Group: Global Moderators Posts: 3,615 Thanks: 3945 Joined: 14.12.07 From: #torrentech Member No.: 25,540 |
You'll be left with the 320 quality (no further degradation of data) but the file size of FLAC.
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05. Mar 2013, 16:22
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audiophiliac Group: Moderators Posts: 605 Thanks: 697 Joined: 25.02.10 From: Milky Way Galaxy Member No.: 57,959 |
I guess thats better than compressing back down to 320 and losing some. And not having the WAV file on your back.
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05. Mar 2013, 16:25
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audiophiliac Group: Moderators Posts: 605 Thanks: 697 Joined: 25.02.10 From: Milky Way Galaxy Member No.: 57,959 |
Thanks for some info Kolor! <3
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05. Mar 2013, 16:27
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Woobblarbalurg!  Group: VIPs Posts: 2,974 Thanks: 280 Joined: 03.10.08 Member No.: 38,646 |
Technically yes, you lose quality, but it isn't really an issue if you use good quality files to begin with. Most digital mixes are made like this, I guess, and it doesn't really tell. I mean, 320 is such good quality already. But yes, technically if you want to avoid transcoding you will have to use WAV or FLAC. But personally I would rather than a "little bit worse 320" rather than a FLAC using loads of memory just to preserve imperceptible extra quality.
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05. Mar 2013, 16:57
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Ready 4 Retirement Group: Global Moderators Posts: 3,615 Thanks: 3945 Joined: 14.12.07 From: #torrentech Member No.: 25,540 |
Uploaded some transcoded spectral to give example of data loss
http://www.check2pic.ru/compare/26831/ |
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05. Mar 2013, 17:16
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audiophiliac Group: Moderators Posts: 605 Thanks: 697 Joined: 25.02.10 From: Milky Way Galaxy Member No.: 57,959 |
QUOTE (Kolor @ 05. Mar 2013, 09:57)  Uploaded some transcoded spectral to give example of data loss http://www.check2pic.ru/compare/26831/ Thanks for this. 
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05. Mar 2013, 17:42
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Woobblarbalurg! Group: VIPs Posts: 2,974 Thanks: 280 Joined: 03.10.08 Member No.: 38,646 |
I never analysed transcodes before, but if I understand that right it looks like the difference is negligible - not worth the extra space.
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05. Mar 2013, 18:00
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Ready 4 Retirement Group: Global Moderators Posts: 3,615 Thanks: 3945 Joined: 14.12.07 From: #torrentech Member No.: 25,540 |
For a mix it will be fine. (Every set on the radio where the DJs use MP3 are transcoded)
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05. Mar 2013, 18:16
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downtempo soul Group: Members Posts: 139 Thanks: 71 Joined: 14.12.12 Member No.: 68,305 |
Yeah, especially considering that the radio uses 128 or 192 (depending on the specific DJ) and Soundcloud streams at 128...
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