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[roscar]

occupy!!!

[roscar]

occupy!!!

I'm all for it. Viva la revolucion

[whatupdog]

OWS is going fucking OFF! NYC is crazy right now. The cops busting up the park was the best thing that ever happened to the movement, now it has spread all over the city. Check out the live feed at www.ustream.tv/theother99

[uggelmuggel]

"to pull a Bloomberg"


edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iNmMPVP49I

[Idle.]

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iNmMPVP49I

Absolutely mother fucking perfect response to what's been going on lately.

[Shizballs]

www.ustream.tv/theother99

His name was Tim Pool and he rocked it.

36,000 people baby!

[TRaiNZZZ]

[whatupdog]

edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iNmMPVP49I

Absolutely mother fucking perfect response to what's been going on lately.

Couldn't agree more. Great video.

[minionofset]

I've heard a lot of talk from #occupy participants that capitalism is to blame for their outrage and that they look forward to the day when the United States becomes a socialist nation. This especially comes from the more educated participants, which is disheartening because of how unrealistic and unaware such a comment is. Capitalism can be many things, and it is not the system as a whole that they are dissatisfied with, but rather elements of it. Unaffordable access to education (thus the majority of #occupy participants make embarrassingly ignorant comments about what they're doing), rampant market deregulation (allowing those privileged with incredible wealth to override the economic safeguards designed to protect the interests of everyone else), and privatized public services (leaving countless afraid of stepping outside for fear of hurting themselves) are some of the primary grievances of "the 99%." Unfortunately these problems are all just thrown in with "capitalism" and the whole socioeconomic system is criticized as a whole. It's exciting to see so much activism and frustrating it can't be better articulated.

[uggelmuggel]

edit: here's the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBk1ogP18K0...der&list=UL

[Idle.]

[dankery]

Fuck these god damn HOBOS! Im seriously contemplating poisoning the food supply with cyanide...

[Shizballs]

Fuck these god damn HOBOS! Im seriously contemplating poisoning the food supply with cyanide...

lol those are students dog

[uggelmuggel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2j4LLUu0BU...feature=related

[uggelmuggel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbOCsIj2rtI

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2011/11/19/eg...for-themselves/

http://www.truth-out.org/what-revolution-looks/1321384587

[Shizballs]

http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/post/1...a-family-a-home




"I AM A SINGLE FATHER OF A 5 YEAR OLD
I CANNOT AFFORD HIS AFTER SCHOOL CARE SO THAT I CAN WORK 9-5
I CAN BARELY AFFORD FOOD FOR US
WHEN WINTER HITS I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PAY THE HIGH GAS BILL FOR HEAT
I CANNOT AFFORD HEALTH CARE FOR THE BOTH OF US IN OUR CURRENT SITUATION
WE MUST LEAVE OUR HOME SO THAT I CAN AFFORD THESE SIMPLE LIFE THINGS FOR MY SON
I WORK IN PUBLIC EDUCATION
I CANNOT MAKE ANY MORE MONEY OR ADVANCE ANY FURTHER IN MY CURRENT POSITION
I’M 33 YEARS OLD AND I HAVE TO MOVE BACK IN WITH MY PARENTS WHO ARE ALSO STRUGGLING
MY DEBT KEEPS ADDING UP
I AM THREATENED WITH WAGE GARNISHING
THE STATE IS THREATENING TO TAKE MY CAR AWAY DUE TO BACK TAXES I CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY
WITHOUT MY CAR I CANNOT WORK
WITHOUT WORK WE CANNOT SURVIVE
MY SON AND I ARE THE 99 PERCENT
OCCUPYWALLST.ORG
OCCUPYKC.COM
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!"





"It’s not about entitlement, it’s about ethics."

[Shizballs]

more daily @ http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/archive

[Idle.]

http://youtu.be/l3Ny9l57aRU

[dankery]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibo2kbti-90 me getting arrested

[Shizballs]

Occupy Wall Street: The Lego Set

[whatupdog]

^^Lol, my kid got Legos for Christmas. Now we can have a new project that will be both fun and educational!

[dankery]

This is a late reply to an old thread but if you really I mean really want to change the world feed yourself and your friends. If you can feed, clothe, and shelter yourself and all those around you then you can say fuck you to any establishment. But I doubt that is what people really want, no offense but probably more often than not the 99% just want to claw into the 1% and then "everything is fine"

Actually Occupy fed millions of hungry people. I personally oversaw the sharing of goods, including cold weather gear, toiletries, and medicine to literally thousands of people over my 3 month stay in the park here. And as for a late reply to an old thread, HOW DO YOU LIKE ME NOW SON!?

[Slankoe]

I've heard a lot of talk from #occupy participants that capitalism is to blame for their outrage and that they look forward to the day when the United States becomes a socialist nation. This especially comes from the more educated participants, which is disheartening because of how unrealistic and unaware such a comment is. Capitalism can be many things, and it is not the system as a whole that they are dissatisfied with, but rather elements of it. Unaffordable access to education (thus the majority of #occupy participants make embarrassingly ignorant comments about what they're doing), rampant market deregulation (allowing those privileged with incredible wealth to override the economic safeguards designed to protect the interests of everyone else), and privatized public services (leaving countless afraid of stepping outside for fear of hurting themselves) are some of the primary grievances of "the 99%." Unfortunately these problems are all just thrown in with "capitalism" and the whole socioeconomic system is criticized as a whole. It's exciting to see so much activism and frustrating it can't be better articulated.

capitalism is not to blame. PLUTOCRACY and OBLIARCHY is!

[Slankoe]

The American Dream

[ainz]

capitalism is not to blame. PLUTOCRACY and OBLIARCHY is!

Yes exactly... but it's fair to say that Corrupt Klepto-Capitalism is to blame.

PS. OCCUPY MY PANCE

[Idle.]

Getting some news here and there that the movement is still growing

[klone138]

Oakland Occupier here.

THIS SYSTEM HAS GOT TO DIE, HELLA HELLA OCCUPY!!!

[ainz]

The American Dream

I never got round to watching this until now... they've explained it well, in an entertaining way.

EDIT: I'm sure the Catholic Church is implicated in the history of (corrupted) money and the financial system... but I can't explain it myself. Someone needs to expose the details of that.

EDIT2: Basically those Jewish money-lenders that were sanctioned by the Catholic Church in early medieval Venice... to circumvent Christian usury laws... that's where the rot started. The history of Jewish involvement in money-lending must be exposed... in an easy-to-digest format like this.

[Pharmakon]

tear down that wall

[dankery]

Oakland Occupier here.

THIS SYSTEM HAS GOT TO DIE, HELLA HELLA OCCUPY!!!

Love the picture... Solidarity!

(Just gonna put this here)
Anarchism, Libertarian Socialism & Anarcho-Syndicalism (Noam Chomsky)

[Slankoe]

BRAKING NOOZ

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2013/02/occu...of-wall-street/

[ainz]

BRAKING NOOZ

http://wallstreetonparade.com/2013/02/occu...of-wall-street/

Now this seems like a good move... it will be interesting to see where it goes.
Occupy the SEC, the FSA, and all the other corrupt regulators of the system... yes.

Let them defend their (in)actions in court... where all sorts of relevant information (currently secret, all discussed behind closed doors) will have to be revealed.

There's more detail here: http://www.occupythesec.org/files/OSECVolckerComplaint.pdf

[Slankoe]

Hell yeah, check it: http://www.hangthebankers.com/anonymous-st...al-information/

[ainz]

Hell yeah, check it: http://www.hangthebankers.com/anonymous-st...al-information/

You know what's going to be lobbied/argued by them though, right?

"We're already broke. You've already increased our core capital reserve requirements with Basel III. We're having trouble meeting them. And now you want to legislate away one of our biggest sources of profit?"

These discussions will take place in Washington behind closed doors. I hate to say it... but I doubt this will ever make it to court.

Good job on these guys for trying though. There's more chance of good coming out of it than say, rampaging thru the streets and getting arrested.

Occupy are thinking smarter.

[ainz]

Was discussing this with someone over a cig the other day. He's a "privatize, deregulate & liberalize it" Economist-reader kind of guy. Here's the crux of how my argument went...

Examine a host & parasite relationship. The parasite depends on the host... when the host dies, the parasite dies with it. But what happens when the parasite has been allowed to infest the host completely? The tables get turned. Now... any attempts to remove the parasite, will result in the death of the host.

That's the situation... that's the problem for which a solution is needed... and it's where the "do what Iceland did, but on a global scale" arguments fall weak. It's so easy to look at Iceland, have admiration for what they've done, and think that's the silver bullet. But when you really examine the detail... it wouldn't work on a global scale. I'm sure of it myself now, and I've yet to read anything that changes my mind.

http://www.imdb.co.uk/title/tt0078748/

I like the litigious approach though. I'm thinking it's harder to paint a false picture via the media (as it's so easy of e.g. scuffles and riots on the street) when legal procedures are followed and subpoenas complied with. Some nasty dirt could surface that galvanizes the tired, struggling-to-make-ends-meet, but complicit masses.

Mind you... thinking back to the O.J. Simpson trial... perhaps not.

[ainz]

Some nasty dirt could surface that galvanizes the tired, struggling-to-make-ends-meet, but complicit masses.

Just realized that this is very unlikely. They'll just shred the documents as they've done many times before... or fly a plane (or something) into the building to incinerate 'em.

[Slankoe]

Here's something cool: http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/15/pf/occupy-wall-street-debt/

[ainz]

Here's something cool: http://money.cnn.com/2013/03/15/pf/occupy-wall-street-debt/

That's a solid idea... writing off bad debt overhang is the way to fix broken credit markets and restore confidence, which allows the economy to heal. However, the lenders (rich bastards) generally aren't too keen on giving up their interest payments. Hence the fact bondholders fight tooth and nail (e.g. with the Greek government) to minimize "restructurings" and "haircuts"; euphemisms for (partial) writedowns, or term-extensions / roll-overs. One thing to bear in mind... debt that's worth pennies on the dollar is worthless for a reason... the holders of it already figured out that it's never going to get repaid... hence the fact they're prepared to sell it on to some other sucker at a huge loss.

What's been done by the government / banksters following the crisis is to offload all the shitty debt onto the backs of the taxpayer by transferring it onto the central bank's balance sheet. When e.g. the UK govt bought equity in RBS to stop it going under, they paid 70% over mark-to-market value... and the loss still stands 5 years later. That money's gone... the citizens of the UK aren't ever going to see it again... it will be taken out of their pensions, healthcare & other social services that were created to protect the least fortunate members of society.

To use a human analogy... when someone has a gangrenous leg... you don't fuck around, you just chop it off. Administering morphine and antibiotics is pointless... the patient's misery will be prolonged for months, and at the end of all that suffering the leg will probably wither and drop off of it's own accord, anyway. Chopping it off distresses the patient in the short-term, but he'll come to terms and start adapting to live without it immediately. Hence the years of misery Europe is going to have to endure. The yanks, with the huge advantage of issuing the world's reserve currency... not so much.

The Occupy debt forgiveness programme is a drop in the piss-bucket given all the crippling bad debt out there... but it's a powerful symbol. It says "we're going to help less fortunate others... with no expectation of future returns". Now that is a powerful concept... it just needs to catch on and permeate the everyday attitudes and behaviours of the masses, and the way we all do business with each other.

[sloccy]

So here in the UK Positive Money is gaining traction and is ran very closely with Occupy, i'd be interested to here some other perspectives on it as it seems that every principle cause of the crash/rot is systematic to all of our countries economies. Certainly the regulatory failure may be quite as terrible in Canada/Scandinavia etc. but the underlying monetary system and its flaws remain the same. Great video on it here if you have time;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo

Also well worth checking out http://www.positivemoney.org/ if you don't have the time for the documentary!

[ainz]

Yeah... everyone should understand how fractional reserve banking works, and how fiat currencies work, and how debt issuance works. I think I've got most of this figured already... but I'll probably watch this when I have a spare moment anyway. thanks for the links.

[dom_1080]

I can vouch for that documentary, the guys that put it together are doing great work. They recently had a meeting with the Icelandic government about the possibility of them moving away from the Fiat Monetary System. Would be awesome/extremely interesting to see how that would turn out.

[viraltech]

occupy a job or a book or something, there better things to do with ones life then follow the LIES .

[Slankoe]

What if OWS is actually computer god Frankenstein controls as if moon bank-brain gangster on the moon?

[Idle.]

occupy a job or a book or something, there better things to do with ones life then follow the LIES .

What lies again? I think I missed somethin'